*Sigh* so much misinformation I can't even begin to unravel it. Refer to pages 1-4 for the facts.
As far as writingwise.com, here's a fact no one but I knew until this junk came up. I offered the site to Ms. Glatzer last year when I still believed in her. Following is the last email when she was complaining about her now former partner and the offer I made.
From: Jenna Glatzer [xx@jennaglatzer.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:27 PM
To: Stephanie Cordray
Subject: Re: About Web hosting
I'm gonna respond to the rest of this later, but I just wanted to make sure I didn't confuse you-- I LOVE Chunky, and he's not my partner. My partner, who no one ever "sees," is Bob Wagner. He handles the business end of AW, and the technical stuff, while I handle the content, the boards, etc. And Amy handles the editing and much of the e-mail. So there are three people who officially work for AW... Chunky is a fabulous pal and volunteer who helps me handle the boards. I just wanted to make sure you didn't think I was annoyed with him, 'cause he keeps my head glued on straight most of the time. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephanie Cordray
To: 'Jenna Glatzer'
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: About Web hosting
<snip> Discussion here that had to do with moving databases and contained email addresses.</snip>
As for walking away from AW, that would be a bad thing… for AW. You make the place. If you could see your stats right now, you’d know how dead it’s been for posts while you’ve been away. Everybody still visits to see what’s new but not nearly the posting activity I’m used to seeing. Chunky is a sweetheart in his own way but without you, AW would be just another writing board.
If you do get that fed up, let me know. I’ll GIVE you writingwise.com, rofl. I’m still thinking about putting a redirect to AW from it to just keep the domain name. I think it’s a cool name but I don’t have the time or expertise to run a writing board. I started it to share free articles I was finding for myself and nothing much more. The forum was somebody else’s idea then they quit on me. I hate running forums, I hate modding forums… I do only under pressure of “Please”. But I’ll help admin behind the scenes… the techie stuff, lol.
However it goes, don’t let it fret you, okay? I’m sure Chunky wants what is best for the site and board in the long run. It will all work out.
Stephanie Cordray
What I know, I know well... What I don't know I can learn if it doesn't kill me first.
http://www.totalweb-inc.com
http://www.jc-hosting.net
http://www.writingwise.com
http://designers-edge.com
http://www.v-chatterbox.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Jenna Glatzer [mailto:jg@jennaglatzer.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 3:46 PM
To: Stephanie Cordray
Subject: Re: About Web hosting
Hey Stephanie!
I'm so out of the loop on the whole hosting thing because that's my partner's department. I think you and I had talked about this a while ago-- I knew darn well that Host Excellence was never going to be able to handle our traffic. It was my partner's call and I have been fighting with him-- to the point where I've almost walked away from Absolute Write-- ever since.
For about a month now (or more), we've been trying to separate out the forum from the rest of the site. He refuses to change hosting cos for the main site because it'll mean having to redo all the storefront stuff again, which took him weeks last time. Our main site is pretty stable, and so are the sub-domain sites; it's the forum that causes all the problems.
So check this out: www.absoluteboards.com. That's hosted by a separate company (a friend of my partner's). We thought the transfer would be pretty seamless, but it isn't-- the entire administrative end is lost. That is, all the customizations I've done. All the screen names and IPs I've banned, the tweaks to the rep system and the mailbox limits, the avatars, the... well, everything... it's all gone except the actual posts. So partner and I are having daily arguments because I'm not going to start all over on all that stuff. It took months to get the forum the way I wanted it, and I wouldn't even know how to redo some of it. Supposedly the hosting company is working with vBulletin now and trying to find someone who can do a custom install to transfer everything. Partner swears to me that this hosting company will give us all the bandwith we could ever want.
As usual, I'm skeptical. But it's out of my hands. And it's giving me an ulcer.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephanie Cordray
To: Jenna Glatzer
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:29 PM
Subject: About Web hosting
I have messaged Chunky C about this too, to try to help come up with the best option for you. I hate it when people get kicked off the board or can’t connect at all and it happens more and more frequently… The larger the community grows the more it’s going to happen. First, being very computer literate I asked Chunky if he could manage a Linux server because I think your best solution would be a virtual private server(VPS). It would be like having your own dedicated server but without the price of a full server setup because you will be sharing a hard drive with several other VPSs. I don’t know what you can afford but I can point you in the right direction for the best service with the best speeds for best price.
Barring that, I will break down and offer you hosting. I know that sounds awful but the truth is: I didn’t want to be your hosting company because I didn’t want the relationship I have with the community to change. Even if nothing is said about who is hosting the site, it would still change. However, seeing you have such sucky service really bugs me. I’m between a rock and a hard place here, being a web hosting company and a member of this great community. If we go this route, I’ll take it further and offer a discount as a member benefactor. It would be senseless to have you pay me then I turn around and pay you to help defray hosting costs. You can still deduct the full amount from your taxes by keeping track of the full price versus what you pay on discount.
If, like me, you hesitate because of the conflict of interests I’ll do my best to help you find a better service. I know there have to be some good ones out there. We can’t be the only ones who are truly good, although the really good ones are hard to find.
Stephanie Cordray
What I know, I know well... What I don't know I can learn if it doesn't kill me first.
http://www.totalweb-inc.com
http://www.jc-hosting.net
http://www.writingwise.com
http://designers-edge.com
http://www.v-chatterbox.net
She never replied one way or the other.
The site stayed dormant until someone came along and said she wanted to see what she could do with it. You are really reaching for every drop of nastiness you can muster aren't you? I bought the domain in the spring of 2004. Domain names are really cheap and I bought it for the reasons stated above in that email. You know, research is a key to writing nonfiction. Reading the research is another key of writing nonfiction. I see no evidence of either action.
As far as a competing site... well... if I still owned the domain... what in the world makes any of you think I would want you on a site I own? What value would you add under these or any circumstances if every word you contribute has to be verified? However, let's look at a google page.
Now, with 38,700,000 resource sites on the net, using just one search term, what does it mean to be a competing site? Is there such a thing? Considering none of you really read the posting you're using for an example I can only assume you think I'm really stupid. That does seem to be born out with the last statements of the posting by "Teresa" : " Stephanie's been known to post as “Moonshadow” at Absolute Write. The wonderful fact, for certain values of wonderful, is that Stephanie is one of PublishAmerica's authors. Some people are just not smart enough to be allowed to run loose on the Internet."
I'm not nor ever have been a PA author. I find it rather humorous how you use it as a victim panacea when it suits you to seem kind and caring but as an insult when you don't get your way.
On another note: Ms. Nielsen Hayden called here in tears over the AW matter. She called me surly in a later post on this same thread of her blog. You bet I was. I almost fell for the tears but luckily remembered the vitriol on her blog before I could utter the words of comfort that the database wasn't deleted or harmed in any way, at which time I stuck to my stock answer. Note the time of her initial post on her blog in the screenshot. The time she called here was 2:42PM of the same day.
Is this a good time to ask, " Will the real Teresa Nielsen Hayden stand up?"
I may not have the funds to initiate a civil suit but I find myself very curious how any of you would react if you had to look into my eyes and repeat what you have said on the internet. I'm still hopeful of winning the lottery, pipedream though it is. I don't have anyone taking up a collection for my legal fees.
You can read the rest of this by going to her site and clicking on any of the links contained within the above post. This was one of those sites that took so much paper to print out that I'm not inclined to waste all my bandwidth on showing it in all its glory. Use theirs instead. There are also numerous links to other sites all stating the same kinds of stuff, some with threats, veiled threats, more personal digs, and insults than one can count. Heck, y'all dug up an old personal page on Fortune City that's so old I can't remember the login information for it to use for degradation, defamation, and humiliation.
To use someone else's quote: " Some people are just not smart enough to be allowed to run loose on the Internet."
Aw, the joys of meeting such wonderful people on the internet, eh?